Showing posts with label Reader Comments. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Reader Comments. Show all posts

Thursday, March 13, 2008

More on comment registration at Herald.com

Editor & Publisher has published a story about the Herald's new comment registration policy. They direct our attention to a letter to readers by TMH Executive Editor Anders Gyllenhaal about the subject. He admits that requiring registration to comment was a long time coming but that it wasn't implemented for technical reasons. It seems to me that it couldn't be that difficult to implement.

The next thing herald.com needs to seriously look at is their arbitrary policy of allowing comments on articles about Hispanics, specifically Cubans and not allowing comments on articles about Blacks and Jews whose sensitivity they seem to protect much more.

Here's the letter from Gyllenhaal for posterity since herald.com puts all articles behind a for-pay wall after certain amount of time (which also needs to be remedied).

TO OUR READERS
Website comments provide a forum for vital debate

agyllenhaal@MiamiHerald.com
When the power went out in South Florida two weeks ago, reporters gathered much of their most valuable information not from emergency workers or Florida Power & Light, but from the hundreds of readers who posted their version of events on MiamiHerald.com.

When Washington Redskins star Sean Taylor was killed last fall, thousands of readers filled The Miami Herald's website every day for more than a week with remembrances, condolences and debate over a senseless crime.

Something extraordinary is going on with what might be considered the next generation of letters to the editor. In the six months since The Miami Herald began publishing comments at the end of online stories, the response has been like nothing we've seen before.

Hundreds of thousands of readers are posting comments or following along with them each month. The commentary ranges from thoughtful insights on the news to valuable leads on stories to some of the most bitter, profane and abusive language imaginable.

Therein lies the rub.

From the first week the commenting launched, enabled by a simple form available at the end of online stories, it was obvious the new tool was going to be both a powerful form of expression and an easily misused bullhorn.

Stories like last year's series of police shootings prompted vast emotional outpourings that accumulated pages upon pages of condolences to the families and condemnations of the crimes. As deep as the paper's coverage might have been of these tragedies, the waves of those messages had a power all their own.

Other stories have stirred robust debates over big public issues of the day, from the war to the baseball stadium. Many readers return so regularly they come to know the names, politics and positions of fellow posters -- few of whom they ever meet -- as if they were neighbors.

And yet on too many stories, the comments swerve across the clear lines of common decency. Whenever the news brushes up against the cultural fault lines of our times -- from race relations to illegal immigration -- the postings can turn vicious, personal and outright racist.

Some readers have asked why the paper puts up with the excesses -- or doesn't do more to curb them. A few weeks ago The Miami Herald's ombudsman aired dozens of the reactions. As one recent caller put it: ``Why don't you just shut this down?''

THE POTENTIAL

The simple answer is that there's too much potential in this exchange for the kind of free-wheeling debate that every community needs.

The more complicated part is figuring out how to create the right kind of atmosphere, which is something we've been working on steadily for months.

We've tried a number of things: A team of editors reads over the message pages throughout the day and at night when the news is heavy and removes comments that are clearly out of bounds.

We've created filters to block offensive words and profanity, a list of which now stretches to 150 words in three languages.

Starting this week, readers wishing to post comments need to be registered with MiamiHerald.com, a simple step that becomes invisible on subsequent visits. Anyone already registered doesn't need to do anything. Readers' sign-ons are automatically attached to their comments.

This last measure took some time to put into place for technical reasons but has quickly helped shape the tenor of the debate. We hope these steps will enable this important discussion to thrive. The appeal of the comment pages is that the paper steps out of the way and lets readers take over.

Shelley Acoca, The Herald's editor devoted to reader exchange, has thought about this topic as much as anyone. She oversees the comments pages, watches for patterns and problems and ponders the future of the project.

SEEING THE BENEFITS

The work, she says, is worth it.

''I just think it's something we have to make work. This community really benefits from the discussion, particularly on things where we don't agree with each other,'' Acoca said. ``We have so many people who've come from places where freedom of expression isn't allowed. It's all the more important that we find a way to provide a place at the center of the community for all kinds of opinion.''

Monday, March 03, 2008

Comments controls beginning at Herald.com

At long last Herald.com is requiring users to be logged in to post comments to news articles. Previously, anyone could post a comment anonymously or use a fake or assumed name. Now at least one needs to register with a functional email address. While this won't completely eliminate the hateful and ridiculous comments it should reduce them significantly.

Wednesday, January 09, 2008

Disappearing comments

From: Larry Daley
To: ptira@mcclatchy.com
Subject: Censoring comments on Agee Death

Peter Tira, Communications Director
916-321-1941
ptira@mcclatchy.com

Philip Agee's death, was reported about two hours ago in the Miami Herald.

At first perhaps for twenty minutes the article had a comment section; I
posted a remark saying that since Agee died of complications from an
ulcer operation, and we now know that ulcers are caused by Heliobacter
pylori (such operations are no longer common medical practice) this
reflects badly on the Cuban health system.

Almost instantaneously my response disappeared and so did the comment
section
see:

http://www.miamiherald.com/915/story/372631.html

One wonders once again if the editorial staff of the Miami Herald view
their function as that of reporting the news or that of protecting the
image of present Cuban system.

Sincerely


Larry Daley
[Address Redacted]
Corvallis, OR 97330

[Phone Number Redacted]

Thursday, January 03, 2008

Responses to Ombudsman Column

A few responses to Herald Ombudsman Edward Schumacher-Matos' column about hateful reader comments posted to articles at Herald.com have been published in the paper.

Wednesday, December 26th

In his Dec. 16 column, Looking for ways to tame poisonous words on Web, ombudsman Edward Schumacher-Matos writes about the difficulty in keeping ugly comments to a minimum on The Miami Herald's website.

When I write a letter or e-mail to the editor, it won't be published if I don't include a legitimate name, address and a daytime phone number. Yet the paper allows anyone to post anonymously to its website. Not only do I have to give up personal information to get published, someone looks through the letters and e-mails to decide if they are worth publishing. On the web, however, one can write anything, and it automatically gets posted.

Why all the hand-wringing when the answer is to impose the same requirements that anyone who sends a letter to the editor has to abide by?

KEVIN HATCHER, Miami Beach
On Sunday December 30th the Herald posted a series of reader responses, most of which backed the idea of registration for commenters.
Thank you for your column about what I have come to call the virtual lynch mob -- the haters given both a forum and a sanctuary by America's newspaper publishers. I thought your suggestions were excellent -- especially since they're the same ones I made on my organization's blog in mid-November, and others, I'm sure, have made before that. . . .

The blog, and the website, www.nccpr.org deal with one of the topics you singled out as most likely to bring out the haters: child abuse.

e-mailed by Richard Wexler executive director, National Coalition for Child Protection Reform, Alexandria, Va.

A few ''idiots'' ruin it for everyone else; therefore, The Miami Herald should implement required registration, including confirmation of the reader's e-mail address.

-- Posted by: VILJ

Why not start your transparency movement by posting which of your editorial board writers write the Herald opinions and who was for and against the opinion? The Herald has been hiding behind anonymity for a very long time.

-- Posted by: Anonymous

Saturday, December 29, 2007

Your local news...

...assembled in New Delhi

The Miami Herald has announced that it will be outsourcing certain job functions to India.

The Miami Herald is outsourcing copyediting of a weekly community news section and some advertising production work to India, a newspaper editor said Friday.

Starting in January, copyediting and design in a weekly section of Broward County community news and other special advertising sections will be outsourced to Mindworks, based in New Delhi.

The project remains in the testing phase, so it was unclear if or how jobs in south Florida will be affected, executive editor Anders Gyllenhaal said.
In terms of ad production, one can only see any outsourcing by the Herald as a step up since the paper has routinely shown that it has no sense of good design whatsoever.

And to think I almost missed this line in the Canadian Press article:
Mindworks will also monitor reader comments posted to online stories, he said.
I wonder what guidelines the Herald will give it's new vendor in India. If they are anything like the current guidelines they would most certainly permit hateful and outrageous remarks as long as they are about Cubans. Such remarks when made about blacks, Jews or any other racial ethnic or religious group are not permitted.

H/T: Daniel in Garanhuns

Wednesday, December 26, 2007

The Herald is pleased...

The Miami Herald is pleased to provide this opportunity to share information, experiences and observations about what's in the news. Some of the comments may be reprinted elsewhere in the site or in the newspaper. We encourage lively, open debate on the issues of the day, and ask that you refrain from personal comments and remarks that are off point. Thank you for taking the time to offer your thoughts.
That's what it says at the bottom of every Herald.com article to which readers can post comments. Here's some of the information and observations being shared about Cubans who drowned trying to make it the U.S.:

Good Riddance
The gene pool needs some chlorine
Posted by: Charles Darwin

12/26/2007 8:03 PM

Yippie!!! Best news I heard all day, dead Cubans!
Posted by:

12/26/2007 8:30 PM

Great job Coast Guard, kil every Cubano U can...
Posted by:

12/26/2007 8:31 PM

Cubans are nasty scumbag, bean eaters anyways
Posted by:

12/26/2007 8:32 PM

If they ate more beans then they could have floated longer.
Posted by:

12/26/2007 8:32 PM

Yes, there's a lot there for the Herald to be pleased about.

Tuesday, December 25, 2007

The racial double standard at Herald.com

There's an article at herald.com from yesterday about the arrest of 2 men who stole 26 handguns from an outdoors store back in June.

Accused Gun Shop Bandits

What's interesting is the reader comments posted to the article. A sampling:
Send these Cubans back

Deport these scum-bag Cubanos!

Cuban scum!!!!!! That is what is wrong with our nation. Send them all back.

Deport all these nasty bean-eatin stinkin Cubanos!

Damn nasty cubans always committing crimes here!

Bet these scumbag cubanos cant post bail, LOL

It should be noted that nowhere in the article does it mention the nationality of the two suspects.

Now I'd like to bring your attention to another article at Herald.com but this one is about three black men arrested for a string of drugstore robberies and the comments on that article are...

Nowhere to be found.

Accused Drugstore Bandits

That's right, there's no place for readers to comment on that story. A Herald Watch reader contends that this article did in fact have a comments section but it was closed and deleted after a few bigoted remarks were posted. Either way it's quite telling that the above comments persist on the Herald's web site. Apparently, the sensitivities of Cuban-Americans are not as important to the Herald's editors as those of blacks.

Monday, December 24, 2007

Comment Moderation Discussion

Well it seems that the Ombudsman's column about comments posted to herald.com articles has drawn a collective yawn from Herald readers. But it did provoke Alesh at Critical Miami to comment.

It seems that the future holds a registration system and/or comment moderation for the Herald, and with the ratio of useless/offensive comments that currently plague the site, I can’t say that I see this as a particularly bad thing...

...what’s putting the breaks on Herald.com readership is the registration system required for reading the site, which is not only invasive and tedious, but broken — I’ve personally repeatedly re-registered for the site, only to have it forget me after a couple of months...

The obvious non-controversial solution is to make the site as easy as possible to read, and require registration for commenting. Throw in a few simple social-networking features, and your offensive comments will decline drastically, and be much easier to enforce.
Alesh's readers also have some thoughts:
JAKE

from a herald insider: the comment issue is just as contentious inside the newsroom as outside. many, many reporters do NOT at all support the random, unregulated commenting that happens now. a new editor position has been created for which part of the oversight areas include “reader exchange” and how to handle commenting issues. they are working on things — slowly — but they’re trying, i guess. as you know, 1 herald plaza is not the best when it comes to anything web…

CARLOS MILLER

The Herald’s website sucks. It’s really not an accurate reflection of the actual newspaper, which in my opinion, is still one of the best in the country.

But the website looks like it’s managed on auto-pilot because there are always grammatical errors in the headlines and many times, they have the same story posted twice or even three times in different locations on the site at the same time.

And many times, they don’t even bother running a photo with the story...

...the website has space to run many more photos than the print edition, but they failed in doing that.
Of course all of these observations are correct. Alesh has been advocating for unregistered access to the Herald and its archives for some time. The benefits of a such a move should be evident to even a casual observer. More content means more eyeballs which means more money that one can command for ad space. And of course Jake is right in that the folks at 1 Herald Plaza move very slowly. Now I wish Carlos Miller was right when he heaps praise on the printed edition of the Herald (we're going to have to agree to disagree on that one) but he brings up a good point, you don't have the space limitations with online, that you do with print. The online edition of herald.com should be loaded with pictures and video. That's what people like about the web.

Sunday, November 04, 2007

Herald reader comments under scrutiny

A piece appearing today at Herald.com explains that the Herald is being criticized by the NAACP for racist reader comments that appear on the paper's web site.

At The Herald, ''we monitor the commentary and when either a reader or we see comments that are beyond the bounds of taste, or are unacceptable, we remove them,'' Gyllenhaal said.

In his letter, Curry asked what The Herald plans to do to prevent the posting of such negative comments.

Gyllenhaal said the newspaper takes a number of steps to monitor and shape the tone of comments while still allowing ''the kind of wide-open debate'' that online postings enable.
Gyllenhaal's statement is a lie. Racist and tasteless comments are the norm at Herald.com. Such comments were the subject of a recent letter Herald Watch sent to the Ombudsman in an effort to get him to go on the record on something other than semantics on illegal immigrants and Turkish history.
From: Henry Gomez
Subject: Online comments
Date: October 29, 2007 4:07:01 PM EDT
To: ombudsman@miamiherald.com

Dear Mr. Schumacher-Matos,

I was wondering why the Herald continues to tolerate hateful comments on the herald.com web site. Take a look at the following:

http://pod01.prospero.com/dir-app/acx/ACDispatch.aspx?webtag=kr-miamitm&action=message&msg=16057

Is it journalistically wrong for the Herald to moderate comments using some minimum standard?

Perhaps removing the anonymity of the commenters will raise the level of civility and the quality of the discussion.

It's a shame that the comments section on important news stories has become a repository for insults and something to be avoided rather than read.

What are your thoughts?


Henry Louis Gomez

I think the real issue has to do with money. You need to pay someone to sit there and moderate comments. You also need to have a policy that's clear as to what's acceptable and what's not. The Herald has shown an incredible unwillingness to commit to a coherent online strategy, whether it's what their reporters who also run blogs can say or not say or what comments are deemed acceptable. Just another symptom of wholesale dysfunction at 1 Herald Plaza.

H/T: Robert from 26th Parallel